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I have a 400GB Maxtor Manager OneTouch 4, model #9nt2a4-500 (Yes, I realize they are Seagate now). The other is a 1TB TD Fantom GreenDrive (1), model # gd1000eu.
I bought the Maxtor years ago. After 1 year's use on XP, I re-formatted it for Mac. Then I bought a GreenDrive and that started on mac. It's manual says it works up to Vista. Both worked fine on my old Macbook Pro when I used 10.6, and they work fine on my new one running 10.8! Both! So why is it neither will work for my Windows 7 PC? OR WILL THEY? I need to get files from that hunk of junk (I literally HAD to change to Windows 7 for college. I got back to Mac just weeks ago). I'll keep using these 2 drives in any case on my new Mac running 10.8, if I can't get to them to work Windows 7.
I'm looking into a new Seagate (formerly Maxtor) Drive that works with Windows 7 (and 8). http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/standard/backup-plus/ It claims to work INTERCHANGEABLY, as in formatted for both at same time right.
So please answer:
1. Is there any way to get either of the 2 drives I own right now to work on my Windows 7 PC?
2. If not, I'd appreciate and explanation.
3.Finally confirm the Seagate drive I put the link to will work INTERCHANGEABLY on my PC and new Mac.
And yes, I've tried the cloud. My PC is so bad the internet runs 10% speed from when it was new . No joke. I don't trust the cloud, I'm actually trying to get a refund from the company "JustCloud" because they had to many restriction and by the time I pay the upgrades, I'll have spent more than that drive. Plus I want to be able to hold my files in my hand, knowing they are safe. I can do that with the other 2 drives for my .avi, .mkv (Maxtor) and iMovie files (GreenDrive), but I need to hold my files from the backup folder on the Windows 7 PC in my hand too..all 110 gigs.
There's been some confusion so let me clear it up: Both drives are empty. Flat out empty. The only space taken up is their formatting which is "MAC OS Extended (Journaled)". MY GOAL IS TO MOVE FILES FROM PC TO MAC, NOT the other way.
Answer
At the Seagate page you provided, it does say...
"Works with PC or Mac.
Use it interchangeably on your PC or your Mac computer without reformatting."
To do that, you go to the link below, download the HFS4WIN.exe file at the link below. Connect the drive you want to use to the Windows system. Double-click the HFS4WIN.exe file and install. When it finishes, restart.
Each drive you want to use with Windows requires a new "installation" of the HFS4WIN.exe software with that drive attached.
Now about the other drives... There are free ways to do things:
-- To copy files from any Mac drive, use HFSExplorer, free, link below. It doesn't actually mount the drive. It works similar to recovery software--just lets you see the files, and copy them to the Windows internal drive.
-- After you copy files, you can format the drive(s) as NTFS for use with Windows. If the drive(s) has the Master Boot Record partition scheme, you can format it in a "Computer" window of Windows.
If by some chance either of those drives has the GUID Partition Table (to allow installing OS X on the drive), you cannot format it in a "Computer" window of Windows. You would have to remove the partition(s) and apply MBR partition scheme...
Right-click the Start menu and choose "Properties". Click the "Customize" button, and put a check for "Display Administrative Tools".
Next, Start > Programs > Administrative Tools > Computer Management
-- On the left, under "Storage", select "Disk Management".
-- Click on the drive to select it.
-- Remove the partition, link below explains how.
-- Add a new partition, link below explains how.
-- Under the "Action" menu, select "All tasks" > Format. Choose NTFS.
About the Tuxtera software... You can save money with Paragon NTFS For Mac. Although Tuxtera claims some mysterious advanced driver design that makes it faster than other drivers, I have used both and find no difference.
As a matter of fact, you can install free software to use any NTFS drive as read-write in OS X....
-- Download and install OSXFuse, link below. You must install this first.
-- Download NTFS-3G, link below.
-- Mount the NTFS-3G image, but do not install--It has two packages inside, and will try to install the defunct MacFuse first, which would fail. Instead....
-- Right-click the "Install NTFS-3G.mpkg" file, and choose "Show Package Contents".
-- A new Finder window will open. Change the view option to list or columns.
-- Navigate to Contents > Packages.
-- Open "NTFS-3G.pkg" and install.
At the Seagate page you provided, it does say...
"Works with PC or Mac.
Use it interchangeably on your PC or your Mac computer without reformatting."
To do that, you go to the link below, download the HFS4WIN.exe file at the link below. Connect the drive you want to use to the Windows system. Double-click the HFS4WIN.exe file and install. When it finishes, restart.
Each drive you want to use with Windows requires a new "installation" of the HFS4WIN.exe software with that drive attached.
Now about the other drives... There are free ways to do things:
-- To copy files from any Mac drive, use HFSExplorer, free, link below. It doesn't actually mount the drive. It works similar to recovery software--just lets you see the files, and copy them to the Windows internal drive.
-- After you copy files, you can format the drive(s) as NTFS for use with Windows. If the drive(s) has the Master Boot Record partition scheme, you can format it in a "Computer" window of Windows.
If by some chance either of those drives has the GUID Partition Table (to allow installing OS X on the drive), you cannot format it in a "Computer" window of Windows. You would have to remove the partition(s) and apply MBR partition scheme...
Right-click the Start menu and choose "Properties". Click the "Customize" button, and put a check for "Display Administrative Tools".
Next, Start > Programs > Administrative Tools > Computer Management
-- On the left, under "Storage", select "Disk Management".
-- Click on the drive to select it.
-- Remove the partition, link below explains how.
-- Add a new partition, link below explains how.
-- Under the "Action" menu, select "All tasks" > Format. Choose NTFS.
About the Tuxtera software... You can save money with Paragon NTFS For Mac. Although Tuxtera claims some mysterious advanced driver design that makes it faster than other drivers, I have used both and find no difference.
As a matter of fact, you can install free software to use any NTFS drive as read-write in OS X....
-- Download and install OSXFuse, link below. You must install this first.
-- Download NTFS-3G, link below.
-- Mount the NTFS-3G image, but do not install--It has two packages inside, and will try to install the defunct MacFuse first, which would fail. Instead....
-- Right-click the "Install NTFS-3G.mpkg" file, and choose "Show Package Contents".
-- A new Finder window will open. Change the view option to list or columns.
-- Navigate to Contents > Packages.
-- Open "NTFS-3G.pkg" and install.
Backup devices compatible with Windows 98 (first edition, not SE)?
Del
I need to upgrade my operating system. But I haven't been able to find any storage solutions to back up my data first. I have Windows (first edition) and USB 1.1. My current ATA hard drive has about 8 (yes 8, not 80) GB.
I also need portable storage to carry data with me when I travel during the upcoming holidays. The computer where I'm going has Windows 98 SE - for which there are more storage solutions - but how do I get my data to and onto that machine?
I considered a disk enclosure for my current hard drive. But how does it work? e.g. does one size fit all? (I have an ATA) How does it connect to another computer? USB? Drivers needed?
I looked at flash drives & picked up a cheap one. It said it only had drivers for Windows 98 SE. I downloaded that driver anyway and it seemed to work - but the flash drive I got was way too small to do backup. Does having USB 1.1 let me 'get away' with using SE drivers for other equipment on my first edition machine?
Other idea?
Answer
I went snooping through my garage and found a box of old computer books. One of them was Windows 98 for Dummies (not 98SE) and it was written in 1998. Back then, there were 3 main ways to back up data: 1. To floppies 2. To tape 3. To special cartridge storage units like Iomega's $150 zip drive that could store 100MB (mega, not giga) on a single $20 cartridge. Just remember that in terms of floppies, it would take about 70 of 'em to store 100MB of data, 700 to store a gig, and 5,600 to back up your entire 8GB HD. Not very feasible.
Since Iomega was specifically mentioned as a supplier of Win98 backup equipment back in the day, maybe their customer support could steer you in the right direction.
http://www.iomega.com/global/index.jsp
A second possibility since your dealing with a small 8GB HD is that a local computer shop with all the needed equipment can do the back up for just a few bucks a CD. Might be less expensive that way than to invest in your own equipment that you may never use again.
Finally, just thought I'd throw in a link to a help site that gives some pretty decent instructions on backing up Win98. Good luck and safe travels this holiday season.
http://pcwin.homestead.com/Backup98.html
plrr
I went snooping through my garage and found a box of old computer books. One of them was Windows 98 for Dummies (not 98SE) and it was written in 1998. Back then, there were 3 main ways to back up data: 1. To floppies 2. To tape 3. To special cartridge storage units like Iomega's $150 zip drive that could store 100MB (mega, not giga) on a single $20 cartridge. Just remember that in terms of floppies, it would take about 70 of 'em to store 100MB of data, 700 to store a gig, and 5,600 to back up your entire 8GB HD. Not very feasible.
Since Iomega was specifically mentioned as a supplier of Win98 backup equipment back in the day, maybe their customer support could steer you in the right direction.
http://www.iomega.com/global/index.jsp
A second possibility since your dealing with a small 8GB HD is that a local computer shop with all the needed equipment can do the back up for just a few bucks a CD. Might be less expensive that way than to invest in your own equipment that you may never use again.
Finally, just thought I'd throw in a link to a help site that gives some pretty decent instructions on backing up Win98. Good luck and safe travels this holiday season.
http://pcwin.homestead.com/Backup98.html
plrr
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