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I'm making a gaming PC and want to know if these are good.
CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.60 GHz Dual-Core APU w/ Integrated Radeon HD 7540D
HDD: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 A75 Chipset DDR3 Socket FM2 ATX w/ XFast USB+LAN+RAM, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, USB3.0, SATA3 RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 3 PCI
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8 (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 430 Watts - Corsair CX430 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
This is all for $477. Is it worth it?
Thanks but im trying to stay around or under $550 planning to upgrade later.
Answer
Some I like. Some issues.
The A6-5400K APU with 7540D either loses the graphics, or can get microstuttering issues with HD 6670 in dual graphics. It pairs only with HD 6570, and that is a weak result either way.
http://www.cpu-world.com/info/AMD/Recommended_graphics_cards_for_AMD_dual-graphics.html
A6-5400K is a weak CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
About a Tier 7.
The HDD is small and SATA II instead of SATA III
The ram is OK and motherboard not terrible, but it is a waste with more than one PCIe x 16 slot
OS Windows 7 home premium 64 bit is better. Any custom build should use that. It uses less ram and easier to use.
The power supply is good.
HD 6670 is a 2012 entry gaming standard. HD 7750 is the 2013, but with that CPU, you bottleneck.
I learned that your price is exactly where laptops and desktops, each bought for best value, have equal performance. The Desktop is upgradable; the laptop includes an LCD and is portable.
You do not show a computer case or DVDRW.
The 6670 assumes the cheaper lower performance 1GB DDR3, unless specifically showing it as GDDR5.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10ciM
Shows cost of parts is $447
Looking at the system, the simplest way to say this, is that the price is good for what it is, but the CPU is too weak and everything but the power supply is over-trimmed to get there.
Look, here is $519 delivered (yours probably adds delivery).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229361
CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra 2138 Desktop PC AMD FX-Series FX-8120(3.1GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB Windows 8
The CPU is more for video editing than gaming, but still is tier 3. There is 8GB RAM and a TB HDD. Same HD 6670. Has a weird cheap high power power supply, and a fairly cheap motherboard. As a whole, it is notably better than what you show. At least you don't get the CPU bottlenecking.
A decent entry level modern system is $625
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227469
Built up yourself is $587.40
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10cGx
The problem is in your price point. I would save up some more money.
Here is a $500 Acer laptop
http://store.acer.com/store/acerna/en_US/pd/productID.258312300/parentCategoryID.60084600/
AMD A6-5400K APU2164
Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz3818
OS - Windows 8
Storage - 500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive - about the same
Memory - 4GB of DDR3 system memory - About the same
Memory Card Supported - Secure Digital ⢠(SD) Card, MultiMediaCard ⢠(MMC), Memory Stick ⢠(MS), Memory Stick PRO ⢠(MS PRO), xD-Picture Card ⢠(xD) - extra in laptop
Display - 15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal ⢠LED-backlit Display - extra in laptop
Video - NVIDIA ® GeForce ® GT 630M with 1GB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM -
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
Show Desktop+Laptop GPU and RESTRICT
HD 6670=HD 5670
The Desktop is at rank #127, Laptop only 170, but trading factors that the desktop is more gaming worthy, but hurting in CPU.
Optical Drive - 8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive your build has this?
WiFi / Bluetooth - 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi CERTIFIED ⢠/ Bluetooth ® 4.0+HS - extra in laptop
Webcam - 1.3 Megapixel HD Webcam (1280 x 1024) - extra in laptop
Battery - 6-cell Li-ion Battery - extra in laptop
To get a bit better GPU in the desktop, the laptop has a lot more other things.
At a GT 635M, the laptop would be better in many ways.
You just need to raise your price point to get a good system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883265286
Take a $330 desktop, change the power supply and add a graphics card.
Intel Pentium G2020 @ 2.90GHz2859
$40 power supply and $60 graphics card and your system is beat.
The G2020 is better than A6-5400K
1TB is better than 500MB HDD
But if you are buying and upgrading, get a refurb or open box and start with FX-4170 or an i3 3rd gen if possible
Adding:
That start of a system costs too much to upgrade.
Start with this:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220217
change the power supply when you add a graphics card.
Look through newegg and amazon
Get to a cpu in the top 3 tiers or #4 at the worse by Toms Hardware.
Prepare to change the power supply and graphics card
Prefer bottom mount PSU cases
Have 8GB RAM and 1TB if possible
Your upgrade to that system is a new CPU that will still be weak, and more ram and a new HDD.
The system you propose is not an easy upgrade.
Some I like. Some issues.
The A6-5400K APU with 7540D either loses the graphics, or can get microstuttering issues with HD 6670 in dual graphics. It pairs only with HD 6570, and that is a weak result either way.
http://www.cpu-world.com/info/AMD/Recommended_graphics_cards_for_AMD_dual-graphics.html
A6-5400K is a weak CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
About a Tier 7.
The HDD is small and SATA II instead of SATA III
The ram is OK and motherboard not terrible, but it is a waste with more than one PCIe x 16 slot
OS Windows 7 home premium 64 bit is better. Any custom build should use that. It uses less ram and easier to use.
The power supply is good.
HD 6670 is a 2012 entry gaming standard. HD 7750 is the 2013, but with that CPU, you bottleneck.
I learned that your price is exactly where laptops and desktops, each bought for best value, have equal performance. The Desktop is upgradable; the laptop includes an LCD and is portable.
You do not show a computer case or DVDRW.
The 6670 assumes the cheaper lower performance 1GB DDR3, unless specifically showing it as GDDR5.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10ciM
Shows cost of parts is $447
Looking at the system, the simplest way to say this, is that the price is good for what it is, but the CPU is too weak and everything but the power supply is over-trimmed to get there.
Look, here is $519 delivered (yours probably adds delivery).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229361
CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra 2138 Desktop PC AMD FX-Series FX-8120(3.1GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB Windows 8
The CPU is more for video editing than gaming, but still is tier 3. There is 8GB RAM and a TB HDD. Same HD 6670. Has a weird cheap high power power supply, and a fairly cheap motherboard. As a whole, it is notably better than what you show. At least you don't get the CPU bottlenecking.
A decent entry level modern system is $625
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227469
Built up yourself is $587.40
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10cGx
The problem is in your price point. I would save up some more money.
Here is a $500 Acer laptop
http://store.acer.com/store/acerna/en_US/pd/productID.258312300/parentCategoryID.60084600/
AMD A6-5400K APU2164
Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz3818
OS - Windows 8
Storage - 500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive - about the same
Memory - 4GB of DDR3 system memory - About the same
Memory Card Supported - Secure Digital ⢠(SD) Card, MultiMediaCard ⢠(MMC), Memory Stick ⢠(MS), Memory Stick PRO ⢠(MS PRO), xD-Picture Card ⢠(xD) - extra in laptop
Display - 15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal ⢠LED-backlit Display - extra in laptop
Video - NVIDIA ® GeForce ® GT 630M with 1GB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM -
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
Show Desktop+Laptop GPU and RESTRICT
HD 6670=HD 5670
The Desktop is at rank #127, Laptop only 170, but trading factors that the desktop is more gaming worthy, but hurting in CPU.
Optical Drive - 8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive your build has this?
WiFi / Bluetooth - 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi CERTIFIED ⢠/ Bluetooth ® 4.0+HS - extra in laptop
Webcam - 1.3 Megapixel HD Webcam (1280 x 1024) - extra in laptop
Battery - 6-cell Li-ion Battery - extra in laptop
To get a bit better GPU in the desktop, the laptop has a lot more other things.
At a GT 635M, the laptop would be better in many ways.
You just need to raise your price point to get a good system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883265286
Take a $330 desktop, change the power supply and add a graphics card.
Intel Pentium G2020 @ 2.90GHz2859
$40 power supply and $60 graphics card and your system is beat.
The G2020 is better than A6-5400K
1TB is better than 500MB HDD
But if you are buying and upgrading, get a refurb or open box and start with FX-4170 or an i3 3rd gen if possible
Adding:
That start of a system costs too much to upgrade.
Start with this:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220217
change the power supply when you add a graphics card.
Look through newegg and amazon
Get to a cpu in the top 3 tiers or #4 at the worse by Toms Hardware.
Prepare to change the power supply and graphics card
Prefer bottom mount PSU cases
Have 8GB RAM and 1TB if possible
Your upgrade to that system is a new CPU that will still be weak, and more ram and a new HDD.
The system you propose is not an easy upgrade.
when will we have a Petabyte be available in the market and what Impact will it do.?
Q. I personally believe I can never have enough memory. I currently have about 100 gigs of pure audio digital music, 2 tb of many many movies (1 tb was dedicated only to 1080p format which I only have about 87 titles). I have a circle of geeky friends that do file sharing. I usually go to their house and transfer data, I have another 1TB dedicated to TV shows, and what is funny I hardly download anything, I usually have a digital copy of my movies and I transfer that to my Hard Drives, and my friends will provide me with a lot of different media.
I now own about 6 TB's of total data information and I am still growing. And am the only one in the neighborhood who probably enjoys the most out of my Computer, when I visit my next door neighbor her DVD collection is vast and she has a library of physical books with Twilight, Rising Fire, Wimpy Kid, Castle in The Sky, and of course potter books. but her computer only has music and very little movies, on a 500 gig Laptop which she thinks is a lot, but I Dwarf hers in comparison, she or her husband comes to me for some movies time to time to share with them for their kids to watch and I gladly help them by putting digital video I own into a single layer dvd format so they can play it for their kids or themselves. I'm am pretty open guy and I'm the one usually help friends or family with what they want to watch or little computer problems.
Well let's get back about my question....
I would be willing to buy a $1,000 or even $4,000 worth of memory that amounts up to 1 Petabyte.
Thing is when will something like that be Affordable? even cheap as $4k?
I remember in the 90's 2 or 4 gigs of hard drive capacity was a big deal.
and when we entered in the early 2000's 50-80 gigs was big deal.
it's 2012 and most computers have 1tb or 2tb.
will we have similar growth in 2022 for computers to have up 100tb or 150tb? or will it grow exponentially and have up to 500TB to 1PB Not sure given to the past.
But when do you think the Petabyte will be available for a pocket size memory like they do with the 1tb nowadays?
I think we'll have one by 2028. :)
I can't see that far ahead but with ONE PB in your pocket what will that mean?
Information could grow bigger and the need for more memory will be in demand!
we would need a special connection cuz I don't think USB 3.0 or Fire wire 800 will cut it even Thunderbolt. So a Super Data Transfer-er USB 10.0.
Movie data will be larger. a blu ray format 1080p of Lord f the Rings is so huge it required almost all of a dual layer blu ray disc of 50 gigs to compact all that definition. So as for movie data being larger. 4K is on the Horizon and 8K as well. We do NOT have the components yet to even acquire that format. A film for 4K I think 100 gigs would suffice to jam pack that Definition for just one Film, and as for 8K it would be double. So what I am saying here is that 1 movie could potentially be as big as 80-100 gigs of Ultra-Definition Meaning you could only pack up to 10-15 Movies per 1TB, which is not a lot media but you'll have the best looking format in you portable Hard Drive.
I have not clue for Video games but for that department I believe Hard Drive Storage will be a great Factor. and of course SSD will be the standard. not HDD.
I could go on and on but what do you think?
I now own about 6 TB's of total data information and I am still growing. And am the only one in the neighborhood who probably enjoys the most out of my Computer, when I visit my next door neighbor her DVD collection is vast and she has a library of physical books with Twilight, Rising Fire, Wimpy Kid, Castle in The Sky, and of course potter books. but her computer only has music and very little movies, on a 500 gig Laptop which she thinks is a lot, but I Dwarf hers in comparison, she or her husband comes to me for some movies time to time to share with them for their kids to watch and I gladly help them by putting digital video I own into a single layer dvd format so they can play it for their kids or themselves. I'm am pretty open guy and I'm the one usually help friends or family with what they want to watch or little computer problems.
Well let's get back about my question....
I would be willing to buy a $1,000 or even $4,000 worth of memory that amounts up to 1 Petabyte.
Thing is when will something like that be Affordable? even cheap as $4k?
I remember in the 90's 2 or 4 gigs of hard drive capacity was a big deal.
and when we entered in the early 2000's 50-80 gigs was big deal.
it's 2012 and most computers have 1tb or 2tb.
will we have similar growth in 2022 for computers to have up 100tb or 150tb? or will it grow exponentially and have up to 500TB to 1PB Not sure given to the past.
But when do you think the Petabyte will be available for a pocket size memory like they do with the 1tb nowadays?
I think we'll have one by 2028. :)
I can't see that far ahead but with ONE PB in your pocket what will that mean?
Information could grow bigger and the need for more memory will be in demand!
we would need a special connection cuz I don't think USB 3.0 or Fire wire 800 will cut it even Thunderbolt. So a Super Data Transfer-er USB 10.0.
Movie data will be larger. a blu ray format 1080p of Lord f the Rings is so huge it required almost all of a dual layer blu ray disc of 50 gigs to compact all that definition. So as for movie data being larger. 4K is on the Horizon and 8K as well. We do NOT have the components yet to even acquire that format. A film for 4K I think 100 gigs would suffice to jam pack that Definition for just one Film, and as for 8K it would be double. So what I am saying here is that 1 movie could potentially be as big as 80-100 gigs of Ultra-Definition Meaning you could only pack up to 10-15 Movies per 1TB, which is not a lot media but you'll have the best looking format in you portable Hard Drive.
I have not clue for Video games but for that department I believe Hard Drive Storage will be a great Factor. and of course SSD will be the standard. not HDD.
I could go on and on but what do you think?
Answer
They just recently got 1TB into a flash drive you can buy. And even then, it costs over $1,000.
There has been technology somewhere that said that you could hold 60 TB in a very small amount of space, but I read it a while ago so I forgot.
Right now, a one PB SSD would cost a million dollars at $1 per GB.
You would also need a gigantic raid array and a huge room for all of the SSDs
required in a RAID array.
So I'm thinking that even thought the technology to do it is almost available, you won't be getting one in the next 10 years with that price and size.
They just recently got 1TB into a flash drive you can buy. And even then, it costs over $1,000.
There has been technology somewhere that said that you could hold 60 TB in a very small amount of space, but I read it a while ago so I forgot.
Right now, a one PB SSD would cost a million dollars at $1 per GB.
You would also need a gigantic raid array and a huge room for all of the SSDs
required in a RAID array.
So I'm thinking that even thought the technology to do it is almost available, you won't be getting one in the next 10 years with that price and size.
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